And anyone who would accuse me of hating or bashing a company, would get politely read, from left to right, no bookmark. [1][2] One of the ladies on NaturallyCurly contacted them about the fact that Titi didnt say she had a texturizer, and they responded with this: Our products do not have alternating chemicals such as Lye. Great for: Wavy, Curly, Tight Curly, and Transitioners. People cant refute the truth and posting things MJs representatives have said is just giving putting as many consumers up on game as possible. Have I tried Miss Jessies? You mean ingredients? Its the first fabric softener type styling lotion that will leave your curls clothesline fresh and fluffy soft. This time my kinks grew back in tighter coils. DMDM hydantoin is an antimicrobial formaldehyde releaser preservative with the trade name Glydant. Alsoa blogger is not the same thing as a journalist in a news outlet, well, not all of us. Sure I am looking for great curl definition but I am not going broke to achieve it. I also had a bit of build-up from it the next day, but I didnt mind that so much because I just re-wetted my hair a bit and used up whatever product was left in my hair from the day before. . but that will be all Im trying to stay away from cones and mineral oils. Furthermorea small amount of mineral oil? Im getting realllllly ticked off with the companies on line i use to buy fromwho use to sell 16oz hair productsalllllllll Now sell there hair products allllll in 8oz and racking up the prices to $16- $20.00 one damn 8oz bottle of shampoo!!?? I love your blog. I am newly trying to embrace my curls, and am an uninformed consumer.
You will see that PILLOW SOFT CURLS is so easy to apply. I am not knocking anyone who uses Miss Jessies and likes it in any way. This was a great post and Im really glad you wrote it because they need to be exposed. I just went to Target and could not believe the price so before I shelled out all my $$ I decided to do some gooling.
I was never interested in trying Miss Jessies products( just wasnt drawn to them). So to me there is no integrity issues with Miss Jessies.
Once I found more natural products at lower prices, I was like Miss Jessie who? I vowed to never put another treatment on my hair. I was concerned that I would get there and they wouldnt address the actual issues I have with my hair, but instead throw some product and chemicals on it and show me the door. )WHO use to sell there shampoos, condish. Thats not my hair journey, but as it is the priority for several women, I cant be mad at them for capitalizing on that marketing angle. The scent is quite strong it smells exactly like liquid fabric softener. Its an excellent service for the individual interested in wearing both straight and curly hair with out permanent straight-style commitment. and hair leave ins in 16oz bottles ARE NOW ALLLLL COPY CATTING all the otha sistahs on the internet sites and damn hell REDUCING THERE PACKAGINGS Of there shampoos, and conditioners and leave ins to crappy 8oz sizesand then RACK UP THE COSTS OF the price of a 16oz bottle pricing to the 8oz bottles!!?? I disagree that its picking on them, but if it works for you, it works. Thanks for the info Elle! Nope. BUT I will keep trying. I dont think theres anything shady about it. Additionally, I dont care if your article is positive or negative.
We cannot give an accurate consultation based on hair thats not in its unstyled/product free state. Their dishonesty and unprofessionalism will come back to bite them. This is HER blog, with HER opinions.
What a waste of money. Miss Jessies Pillow Soft Curls has good slip and is a great detangler. And no, just because something is natural does not mean it will work well. Be Blessed! Mery: We have a stretched silkining creme but its just a styling creme not the chemical process. If every person in the United States said something was wrong with Miss Jessies product than that is their opinion and it absolutely would NOT change my opinion of it. Let me reemphasize, I said me. I dont live in NY, so Im not concerned with the cost of living there. My friend loves the 3 Sisters of Nature products which are knockoffs of Miss Js and Kinky Curly products for the fraction of the price. I honestly dont care if people choose to not use products with mineral oil. Hmmm. Additionally, I used Shea Moisture, that stuff is awful! I knew from experience that was a chemical change. BRING BACK THEM 16OZ SIZES AND KEEP IT THE PRICES YOU CHARGE FOR THEM 8OZ BOTTLES!!!!!! COME ON LADIES OUT THERE STOP RIPPING US OFF HEREITS BAD ENOUGH THAT OUR ECONOMY IS SCREWED UP BUT DONT SCREW UP YOUR PRICES OF YOUR HAIR PRODUCTS!!! I just recently subscribed and just received your new post. So, I Googled Miss Jessies alternatives and came across Kinky Curly products, which were sold at my Whole Foods. THENI found out that Titi (one of the co-owners of Miss Jessies) has a silkener ie texturizer so she can get the look she wants without spending as much time on her hair. They have also added the ingredients to the site since I wrote this (praise baby Jesus! I am crazy huh? Thank you for presenting such a great argument! I was so fooled by Miss Jessies products and bought over $400 worth of junk. As I continued my research (I was looking to see if someplace sold it for a cheaper price), I found that it contained mineral oil, petroleum, and cones (note the Curly Pudding contains a water soluble cone, but their other products contain them oh, and some have parabens too). Im a researcher. A less than$3.00 bottle of Aussie Moist Conditioner and a Denman Brush give me the most beautiful curls in the world.
And yes, to me texturizers are the same thing as relaxers. Ive used this product 6 times: without a leave-in, with a leave-in, a little bit without a leave-in, a little bit with a leave-in, a lot with a leave-in, and a lot without a leave-in. I feel like people pick on MJ a lot, there are many other pro brands that are expensive and dont have the best ingredients. Thank God we have people like you who can educate us without the HUB BUB. So, for me, as well as I suspect for others, this is mainly an ethical issue. Every Natural [woman] for themselves. Hair is left soft, fluffy, and expanded. I wish I wouldve read this before I bought Curly Pudding. They normally have two for one sales around that time. My thoughts on them has nothing to do with their products. Mineral oil is my friend and I am beautiful praise God! If others have allergic or negative reactions to mineral oil, then by all means stay away from it, but dont knock a company for using a beauty products that has been around since pretty much forever! DMDM hydantoin is an organic compound belonging to a class of compounds known as hydantoins. Wow, so much excitement over simeones right to have an opinion! It is way too overpriced and it seems that the consumer is paying for the name just because the product was seen on a television show that is not on the air anymore. The prices range from $22 to as high as $65 at my local Target and I cannot justify spending that much for one hair product that contains cheaper materials such as mineral oil. Absolutely ridic. Just sayin. And by the wayas my credibility as a blogger is shot, yours is as a commenter as well.
HOW SHADY! Hm.
I also dont care if their products are expensive as others are, I use other products that are expensive and hell, if it works, it works. I have to say I found this post too late. A woman who went there that I met in Walgreens told me thats how much she paid. my hair stylist no longer promotes MJ, and Ive found healthier alternatives that work better for my hair and dont smell like grapes on steroids (Curly Pudding, theres a non-scented formula but only in small size). (If you go to the MJ website you can click the live chat and ask them anything you want) this is what i got. One thing I do know for sure is that texturizers arent natural and I hate when women think they are natural sporting that lol, it makes me laugh and wonder do these people really want to love and embrace their natural hair texture or are they just trying to fit into what society calls good hair lol. I have never in my life heard of that. this volume of hair without a silkener will take at least 2 hours to style and 3hours to dry. Id like to come with it styled and with product in my hair. Read below: Disclaimer: Before I write this post, I want you to know that if you use Miss Jessies products and they work for you, good for you! I also welcome suggestions on cheaper alternatives. If you look at the date posted, this article is old Miss Jessies has switched up their marketing quite a bit, which I think is due to the previous outcry about certain things, like the major turn your kinks into curls initiative and the best darn products for natural hair thing. I will say, I used Carols Daughter Hair Milk, (all natural) it started out doing really great then eventually stopped giving me the results I was looking for. I reread my post and dont see thatthere is nothing wrong with grease if your hair likes it. I purchased their products in the past because I didnt/dont care about mineral oils. the products scent alone would be enough for me to not buy it again, but add to that the dryness it caused on my hair, split ends.smh.shady business tactics etc.. Bravo!
Each hair, skin and body indulgence collection is infused with rare ingredients that bring out your natural beauty. So if these products are not all natural they are advertising them as such. I think when it comes to Miss Jessies the proof is in the pudding. And its sad too, because I love their advertising and the design of their website. ME: Thanx for your help ! Ummmmwhy are you doing chemical treatments if you boast that your products are the best darn products for natural hair period? Of which I am entitled to have, and if I were a blogger, I would blog about it.
Who says it has to be all natural to work. Mery: That will be a question for a stylist and they are able to help you if you call at 212-966-5600. Also because of my my health issues I am trying to stay away from questionable items such as parabens and some harsher cones. I read the ingredients, didnt see the word formaldehyde-but, I had a gut feeling when I saw DMDM Hydantoin.
It was a lot less expensive than Miss Jessies but it rendered my hair heavy , stiff, and kind of sticky to the touch. I honestly do not understand how a jar of grease can damage anyones hair. I Wore My Natural Hair Straight for TWO Months Thank Goodness for Camille Rose DeepConditioner! BUT their marketing was very skewed when I wrote this piece and I was especially annoyed at the things they stated in their interviews and how they addressed people on YouTube.
It is perfect for achieving static-free, big, soft, curly hair that we all dream about.
About Us \ Press \ Newsletter \ Be on Un-ruly \ Work With Us \ Terms \ Privacy \ Advertise \ Meet Up\ Discover Yeluchi by Un-ruly. i fell for the impeccable design and label! Thanks. I wont lie, they leave a bad taste in my mouth. But, as natural hair is a hobby for me, this peaks my interest. As stated, just because something is all natural does not mean that it will work properly on your hair or not be damaging to it. I feel that they make it clear on the website that they do chemical treatments but SPECIALIZE in natural services. Did I also mention that a hair consult at Miss Jessies is $75, and they charge you $50 to wash the product out of your hair so they can do an accurate assessment of your naked hair? Also, please note: mineral oil is not simply used in hair products. Thank you so much for this blog! Hair care companies (them private mom and pop stores online) IS GETTING DAMN HELL RIDICULOUSLY OVERPRICED For a 8oz bottles!!! Read on, then move one. I am a PJ, so I started trying the other stuff and as a newbie didnt know much about natural hair products. Okay, I promise this is it for me, no more post but, I just check out Curlbar (http://www.missjessiescurlbar.com/menu/) and the prices are by no means something that will make me throw up in a corner. Basically to me that says, We use fillers to mass produce our product, then charge out the ass for them because of the active ingredient. An acquaintance suggested Miss Jessies, and told me it totally stepped her curl game up. Im all about upgrading, so I was very intrigued. Miss Jessies PILLOW SOFT CURLS is the new styling lotion that borrows fabric care technology and marries it to haircare. So I saw this stuff and figured Id give it a try. I dont think thats true companies change their ingredients all the time and a blogger may not know (because we dont keep going back to their sites).
I know what you meanbut girlsimmer! Im not sure why anyone would have an issue with paying the prices that are posted on that website, because I promise you, you will probably NOT get any service for that price from Chaz Dean salon, John Freida, or Chris McMillan salons (who predominately cater to those of a different ethnicity than I).
So, unless no one gave Miss Jessies the memo that companies list ingredients by how much is in the product (which would be stupid, because having MO as the second ingred makes them look wack), Id say its a more than a little. I am disappointed to find out Miss Jessies Curly Pudding has formaldehyde as one of its ingredients. On top of that, I found that the ingredients used to be way better, but when they became more mainstream they changed the formula without informing anyone. And by the way, The CD Hair Milk isnt all natural either, so I encourage you to do some research about ingredients and become familiar with what you are putting on your hair. Heres why: When I decided to go natural, I was looking for a product that would help my relaxed hair curl (ie, not look like a wavy, stringy mess), but still work on my natural hair as it grew. ActuallyI couldnt see thatthe comments come up in my dashboard in the order people post them in. Our products have a small amount of mineral oil besides the 16 ingredients, furthermore mineral oil ISNT the active ingredient, Shea Butter is the active ingredient. Also, unless Carols Daughter has changed her MO, her hair products are natural (or they used to be). I used the Pillow Soft Curls on Friday and my hair was so frizzy and dry. Bottom-line when I originally read this article it was not accurate!
), I noticed because I was just on their site yesterday looking for information on a new product. SoIve never posted on this site, though I read it often. Its used in thousands (if not millions) of other cosmetic products around the world. Why Miss Jessies Will NEVER See a Dime From Me (Okay they saw a dime ortwo). There are tons and tons of non-natural ingredients that go into hair products but are not included in *natural* products (however, natural does NOT mean better). I opened the tub and see this purple sutff and was immediately turned off. You will need to read the lists and if you are unsure, Google the ingredient. So moved on to Kinky Curls and Shea Moisture. If they work for me I will use them as long as they are offered and will always be able to afford them in the name of Jesus! Even if they have removed the turn your kinks into curls slogan, that still follows them because whenever I am in Target or the BSS in my city that sells them, I hear mostly non curly naturals discussing how they are going to buy MJ bc they heard thats the only product that will turn their kinks into curls. I am in complete agreement with you; although, Ive never considered any of this before. Everyday, someone asks me what do you do to get those gorgeous curls?. But you wont see ME doing it. Im all about health of my hair and affordabililty. This begs the question as to why MJ has not followed suit. ' Well you know, whatever floats your boat. Its amazing! Thanks Elle! The name says it all. How phony! Good day. Be blessed, Elle! We have user Kinky Curly for special occasions and the curls really do look great! Although I know definition is sort of the opposite of what in claims, I still like my results. So glad I read this article to save myself the frustration.
I left a comment asking about this; lets see if they answer my question.
Gave me greasy hair the first day, flat hair the second and dry hair the third! Yea right!
I know what works for me and use whatever works, whether it has mineral oil or not.
Dear Elle: | Discover Yeluchi. So, why does Miss Jessies stuff cost $38-$58 for 16oz? The chemical in keratin treatments is different from dmdm hydantoin, which is a preservative where the main concern is skin irritation. They worked good for a few days and I realized my hair was starting to dry out and break off. For me, I believe in quality items. Poison Ivy is all natural but you dont want to rub that all over your face.
I still believe in using the same old stuff to grease my scalp and I use vaseline on my skin daily! Heck the only line that I have spend money on is Carols Daugther and I will admit seem of her products are reasonable in price and it does wonders on my hair. And for low cost.
Its my opinion. Why is it that they have to charge out the ass for products for US? I have a mixed daughter with beautiful curly hair but does require lots of meintenance especially because she is an active 8 year old. .
It also makes you look like you have ulterior motives in MY OPINION.
But admittedly, they dont annoy me *as much. ME : Is your natural texture permnantly changed like it would be if you had a perm/texturizer?
but i will probably never buy it again. Wellit seems that they did not answer my question OR approve my comment, and also deleted their response which said they dont contain mineral oil. Mery: Like a relaxer or texturizer, the Silkener is a chemical as well. Im always on the look out for natural products and I have to say its hard to find stuff that works as well as the bad ones. NO THANK YOU! All the products are garbage they are all just jars of grease and did nothign but damage my natural hair!! Full of ish, I tell ya. Miss Js just reminds me of a jazzed up pink lotion. Please be aware that we are making changes regarding ingredients, this usually takes time, it can not happen overnight. Good luck! What the #*^@!?! That speaks volumes to me about your credibility as a blogger and/or reviewer of a product. Moreover you are beautiful and intelligent, and izzi is gorgeous. Eventually the color of the Curly Pudding went away and my hair started to dry and I thought it would turn out well Until I went outside this morning One thing I appreciate about gel IT HOLDS. Yes, I totally agree that some of these people are obviously affiliated with MJ. i think the only reason i would be reluctant to buy the products is because there are sooo many mixed reviews. It even looks a little bit like it too. Thanks for this post & I highly recommend KCC & THERE shampoo, etc. I was even more annoyed. Since that time, Miss Jessies has made some changes for the better, including adding the ingredients to their site, changing their tagline (to The Best Darn ProductsPeriod which is still a giggle but fair enough), and concentrating less on turning kinks into curls, although I still feel as if their main focus is curl definition. Whether you love or hate MJ products is up to you. If it does, Im buying it period Be blessed yall! Further, I do not think that people are picking on MJ. ! ~~~ Calm all that down, please. I have tried LOTS of products, both expensive and inexpensive over the years and have settled on using simple clear gel and a really good blow dyer and diffuser. Now, I know that MJ is not the only company to use puffery or downright dishonesty to sell their products, nor are they the only company to sell their potential consumers false hopes. natural hair brands know haired styling gal needs every styles * Again, if you love the products, sexy legumes and and may the force of the curl be with you. But I tried the samples thinking I wasnt going to like it and I was actually kind of impressed with the Shampoo. ME: How many washes after the chemical process is applied that your actual texture comes back after its been loosened? ? I mean, youre right.
OMG I LOVE YOU! Nope! Theres a big difference in your hair not looking bouncy and curly (loaded with grease) and being damaged.
Its a little shady ! Its scent is reminiscent of Downy fabric softener/drier sheets, which some people love and some hate. Search for: I saw the video about shingling and tried itAnd I felt like I was shellacing my hair with relaxer because my hair was completely white/purplish, but at least it smelled good. Now if it was loaded with alcohol or other drying ingredients I can see someone say it damaged their hair but how can a jar of grease damage your hair? If not, all good. Basically, the only positive thing about this product was the slip factor.. It does, however, appear to be more effective for those with a looser curl. My beautician cut my hair very short and I started all over with my natural. But my hairstylist recommended MJ Buttercreme for healthy growth. I have 400+ posts, one cannot expect me to continuously update my posts based on the marketing efforts of a company unless someone brings it to my attention, as you did so thanks! But MJ as a company subscribes to some ideologies that I cannot support. Coming from me, thats saying a lot. Over the years, Ive learned that hair product with non natural colors cant be truly natural.
And as a responsible blogger, you should update the post accordingly. But all agree that it is has a strong scent.
My sole goal when using a product is does it work for my hair. Totally disgusting. Now that I am a young adult I can make my own decisions regarding my hair which is why I went back to being natural. I know Im sooooooo late on this blog. Just wished it didnt leave a residue in my hair.. Water (Aqua), Emulsifying Wax NF, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Behentrimonium Chloride, Methyl Gluceth-20, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Blue 1 (CI 42090), Fragrance (Parfum), Limonene, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Oil, Safflower (Carthamus Tinctorius) Oil, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Alpha Isomethyl Ionone, Citric Acid, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Silk Amino Acids, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein/PVP Crosspolymer, Linalool, Hexyl Cinnamal, Amyl Cinnamal, Citronellol, Benzyl Salicylate, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Benzyl Alcohol, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Hydroxycitronellal, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract, Equisetum Arvense Leaf Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Althaea Officinalis Root Extract, Agave Americana Leaf Extract, Your email address will not be published. I personally have NEVER used the products based on price, amount and ingrediants.i was called crazy for not using themfrom ppl who never thought to read ingrediants. This is a quote from the website. Its a double standard, plain and simple. I wish Id known about you years ago, my hair is so much healthier now. All in all I want something that works. Will you still be able to determine what my curly style options will be when you consult with me?
And dont get me started with that silkener crap..that is false advertising! And they were less expensive obviously, a no brainer. They advertise what theyre popular for.natural hairbut i agree about titi.
Clearly J has an agenda coming here refuting a bloggers right to post her opinion and asking for addendums If J does in fact work for Ms Jessies (obviously theres an affiliation of some sort), try not to be so damn defensive and transparent about your affiliation in the interest of good marketing. But after finding other (cheaper) products I decided to go without shelling over the big bucks for my hair and put it in Food & Gas for my car (yea to me Miss Jessies is enough to feed me for two weeks and a full tank) I think its sad that someone cant share their opinion without being attacked. Miss Jessies products suck (for lack of better words) and theyre pricey. (Supposedly no harmful chemicals-even claimed to be all natural) My hair looked amazing all down my back for 2 months-until it began falling out. I dont understand why they charge so much for their products either.
You can share your positive opinion of the products without coming off like youre in a debate. Your email address will not be published. I hated the curly meringue it was awful.
However, once most of us became more familiar with our natual hair and started researching ingredients, it became irrational to us to pay the prices MJ charges for the same ingredients that are in Blue Magic or Lusters Pink Lotion etc.,. I dont see any mention that their products are the Best Darn Products for natural hair period. i absolutely *hated* the scent (smelt like cheap mens cologne, and strongly at that not good!). I hear lots of African American women giving me that advice including some of my close friends but we will keep going natural and keep reading great blogs like yours! I totally agree with you ! i AGREE With you tooBUT IM WONDERINGWHHHHYYYYY issss allllll these black hair care on the web companies (im getting hootin mad here!! ME: So its (what i know as) a texturizer? This product gave me hair that I didnt know I had!
Its not that deep, everunless youre than manufacturer. Still, this salon is an upscale salon in New York City!!! Mery: The silkner only helps loosen the hair texture to help it be more manageable.
Hmmmm.Ill admit, you can find this information on their website, but I found it fishy that they didnt mention it AT ALL on national TV, especially when it seems like they make so much money from them. To tweak existing curls, kinks or waves, address shrinkage, turn kinks to curls, combat frizz, and make hair more manageable. Yeah.okay.and in case you think Im lying, this is DIRECTLY from their FAQ on the website . And it also provides a great shine. I am NOT against any product all natural or not.
The problem I have always had with Miss Jessies is the price. pudding hair curly natural miss jessie five jessies Points still stand.). Anyways if you go to their site they still promote turning your kinks into curls. I was looking at the before and afters and they repeatedly say things like we turned her kinks into curls with Just and fyi, they really didnt change much at all.
Addendum, July 5, 2012: This post was originally written in March 2010. , Who said grease was damaging? I am not your curl messiah and I dont tell people what to do. Well, so that already annoyed me, and I was pretty much done with them. You are correct. Sneaky huh? The companys name sake is from the same place my family is from and I dont care what anyone has to say about their products.
This is the very reason I never ever wanted to jump in the Miss Jessie line. It spreads so smoothly and feels as light as a feather on your curls. The average person should not be spending $14 on a bottle of shampoo especially, if it is not of quality and you can get the same thing for $3. THENTiti and Miko went on Tyra, plugged their productsbut NEVER mentioned the fact that they give chemical services at their salon, or that Titi has a silkener.
Natural, not ALL natural. Thats great!
Thanks for the post , 100+% agree! detangler.
Wet not wash hair removing all product, twist or braid formation, and straight styles leaving your hair free form for your 1st visit. Woo-sah! Be a responsible journalist (be it professionally or not) be responsible for what you put out there! All in all, many people found the product to be satisfactory, but not worth paying full price.
Get it right! The only time they sell major product is when they do the BOGO sale. Anyway Im getting off track because What I really wanted to say was that it is so easy to get wrapped up in the hype and spend lots of money on products because of their claims or because of bias positive reviews on Youtube( that annoys me so much).
You will see that PILLOW SOFT CURLS is so easy to apply. I am not knocking anyone who uses Miss Jessies and likes it in any way. This was a great post and Im really glad you wrote it because they need to be exposed. I just went to Target and could not believe the price so before I shelled out all my $$ I decided to do some gooling.
I was never interested in trying Miss Jessies products( just wasnt drawn to them). So to me there is no integrity issues with Miss Jessies.
Once I found more natural products at lower prices, I was like Miss Jessie who? I vowed to never put another treatment on my hair. I was concerned that I would get there and they wouldnt address the actual issues I have with my hair, but instead throw some product and chemicals on it and show me the door. )WHO use to sell there shampoos, condish. Thats not my hair journey, but as it is the priority for several women, I cant be mad at them for capitalizing on that marketing angle. The scent is quite strong it smells exactly like liquid fabric softener. Its an excellent service for the individual interested in wearing both straight and curly hair with out permanent straight-style commitment. and hair leave ins in 16oz bottles ARE NOW ALLLLL COPY CATTING all the otha sistahs on the internet sites and damn hell REDUCING THERE PACKAGINGS Of there shampoos, and conditioners and leave ins to crappy 8oz sizesand then RACK UP THE COSTS OF the price of a 16oz bottle pricing to the 8oz bottles!!?? I disagree that its picking on them, but if it works for you, it works. Thanks for the info Elle! Nope. BUT I will keep trying. I dont think theres anything shady about it. Additionally, I dont care if your article is positive or negative.
We cannot give an accurate consultation based on hair thats not in its unstyled/product free state. Their dishonesty and unprofessionalism will come back to bite them. This is HER blog, with HER opinions.
What a waste of money. Miss Jessies Pillow Soft Curls has good slip and is a great detangler. And no, just because something is natural does not mean it will work well. Be Blessed! Mery: We have a stretched silkining creme but its just a styling creme not the chemical process. If every person in the United States said something was wrong with Miss Jessies product than that is their opinion and it absolutely would NOT change my opinion of it. Let me reemphasize, I said me. I dont live in NY, so Im not concerned with the cost of living there. My friend loves the 3 Sisters of Nature products which are knockoffs of Miss Js and Kinky Curly products for the fraction of the price. I honestly dont care if people choose to not use products with mineral oil. Hmmm. Additionally, I used Shea Moisture, that stuff is awful! I knew from experience that was a chemical change. BRING BACK THEM 16OZ SIZES AND KEEP IT THE PRICES YOU CHARGE FOR THEM 8OZ BOTTLES!!!!!! COME ON LADIES OUT THERE STOP RIPPING US OFF HEREITS BAD ENOUGH THAT OUR ECONOMY IS SCREWED UP BUT DONT SCREW UP YOUR PRICES OF YOUR HAIR PRODUCTS!!! I just recently subscribed and just received your new post. So, I Googled Miss Jessies alternatives and came across Kinky Curly products, which were sold at my Whole Foods. THENI found out that Titi (one of the co-owners of Miss Jessies) has a silkener ie texturizer so she can get the look she wants without spending as much time on her hair. They have also added the ingredients to the site since I wrote this (praise baby Jesus! I am crazy huh? Thank you for presenting such a great argument! I was so fooled by Miss Jessies products and bought over $400 worth of junk. As I continued my research (I was looking to see if someplace sold it for a cheaper price), I found that it contained mineral oil, petroleum, and cones (note the Curly Pudding contains a water soluble cone, but their other products contain them oh, and some have parabens too). Im a researcher. A less than$3.00 bottle of Aussie Moist Conditioner and a Denman Brush give me the most beautiful curls in the world.
And yes, to me texturizers are the same thing as relaxers. Ive used this product 6 times: without a leave-in, with a leave-in, a little bit without a leave-in, a little bit with a leave-in, a lot with a leave-in, and a lot without a leave-in. I feel like people pick on MJ a lot, there are many other pro brands that are expensive and dont have the best ingredients. Thank God we have people like you who can educate us without the HUB BUB. So, for me, as well as I suspect for others, this is mainly an ethical issue. Every Natural [woman] for themselves. Hair is left soft, fluffy, and expanded. I wish I wouldve read this before I bought Curly Pudding. They normally have two for one sales around that time. My thoughts on them has nothing to do with their products. Mineral oil is my friend and I am beautiful praise God! If others have allergic or negative reactions to mineral oil, then by all means stay away from it, but dont knock a company for using a beauty products that has been around since pretty much forever! DMDM hydantoin is an organic compound belonging to a class of compounds known as hydantoins. Wow, so much excitement over simeones right to have an opinion! It is way too overpriced and it seems that the consumer is paying for the name just because the product was seen on a television show that is not on the air anymore. The prices range from $22 to as high as $65 at my local Target and I cannot justify spending that much for one hair product that contains cheaper materials such as mineral oil. Absolutely ridic. Just sayin. And by the wayas my credibility as a blogger is shot, yours is as a commenter as well.
HOW SHADY! Hm.
I also dont care if their products are expensive as others are, I use other products that are expensive and hell, if it works, it works. I have to say I found this post too late. A woman who went there that I met in Walgreens told me thats how much she paid. my hair stylist no longer promotes MJ, and Ive found healthier alternatives that work better for my hair and dont smell like grapes on steroids (Curly Pudding, theres a non-scented formula but only in small size). (If you go to the MJ website you can click the live chat and ask them anything you want) this is what i got. One thing I do know for sure is that texturizers arent natural and I hate when women think they are natural sporting that lol, it makes me laugh and wonder do these people really want to love and embrace their natural hair texture or are they just trying to fit into what society calls good hair lol. I have never in my life heard of that. this volume of hair without a silkener will take at least 2 hours to style and 3hours to dry. Id like to come with it styled and with product in my hair. Read below: Disclaimer: Before I write this post, I want you to know that if you use Miss Jessies products and they work for you, good for you! I also welcome suggestions on cheaper alternatives. If you look at the date posted, this article is old Miss Jessies has switched up their marketing quite a bit, which I think is due to the previous outcry about certain things, like the major turn your kinks into curls initiative and the best darn products for natural hair thing. I will say, I used Carols Daughter Hair Milk, (all natural) it started out doing really great then eventually stopped giving me the results I was looking for. I reread my post and dont see thatthere is nothing wrong with grease if your hair likes it. I purchased their products in the past because I didnt/dont care about mineral oils. the products scent alone would be enough for me to not buy it again, but add to that the dryness it caused on my hair, split ends.smh.shady business tactics etc.. Bravo!
Each hair, skin and body indulgence collection is infused with rare ingredients that bring out your natural beauty. So if these products are not all natural they are advertising them as such. I think when it comes to Miss Jessies the proof is in the pudding. And its sad too, because I love their advertising and the design of their website. ME: Thanx for your help ! Ummmmwhy are you doing chemical treatments if you boast that your products are the best darn products for natural hair period? Of which I am entitled to have, and if I were a blogger, I would blog about it.
Who says it has to be all natural to work. Mery: That will be a question for a stylist and they are able to help you if you call at 212-966-5600. Also because of my my health issues I am trying to stay away from questionable items such as parabens and some harsher cones. I read the ingredients, didnt see the word formaldehyde-but, I had a gut feeling when I saw DMDM Hydantoin.
It was a lot less expensive than Miss Jessies but it rendered my hair heavy , stiff, and kind of sticky to the touch. I honestly do not understand how a jar of grease can damage anyones hair. I Wore My Natural Hair Straight for TWO Months Thank Goodness for Camille Rose DeepConditioner! BUT their marketing was very skewed when I wrote this piece and I was especially annoyed at the things they stated in their interviews and how they addressed people on YouTube.
It is perfect for achieving static-free, big, soft, curly hair that we all dream about.
About Us \ Press \ Newsletter \ Be on Un-ruly \ Work With Us \ Terms \ Privacy \ Advertise \ Meet Up\ Discover Yeluchi by Un-ruly. i fell for the impeccable design and label! Thanks. I wont lie, they leave a bad taste in my mouth. But, as natural hair is a hobby for me, this peaks my interest. As stated, just because something is all natural does not mean that it will work properly on your hair or not be damaging to it. I feel that they make it clear on the website that they do chemical treatments but SPECIALIZE in natural services. Did I also mention that a hair consult at Miss Jessies is $75, and they charge you $50 to wash the product out of your hair so they can do an accurate assessment of your naked hair? Also, please note: mineral oil is not simply used in hair products. Thank you so much for this blog! Hair care companies (them private mom and pop stores online) IS GETTING DAMN HELL RIDICULOUSLY OVERPRICED For a 8oz bottles!!! Read on, then move one. I am a PJ, so I started trying the other stuff and as a newbie didnt know much about natural hair products. Okay, I promise this is it for me, no more post but, I just check out Curlbar (http://www.missjessiescurlbar.com/menu/) and the prices are by no means something that will make me throw up in a corner. Basically to me that says, We use fillers to mass produce our product, then charge out the ass for them because of the active ingredient. An acquaintance suggested Miss Jessies, and told me it totally stepped her curl game up. Im all about upgrading, so I was very intrigued. Miss Jessies PILLOW SOFT CURLS is the new styling lotion that borrows fabric care technology and marries it to haircare. So I saw this stuff and figured Id give it a try. I dont think thats true companies change their ingredients all the time and a blogger may not know (because we dont keep going back to their sites).
I know what you meanbut girlsimmer! Im not sure why anyone would have an issue with paying the prices that are posted on that website, because I promise you, you will probably NOT get any service for that price from Chaz Dean salon, John Freida, or Chris McMillan salons (who predominately cater to those of a different ethnicity than I).
So, unless no one gave Miss Jessies the memo that companies list ingredients by how much is in the product (which would be stupid, because having MO as the second ingred makes them look wack), Id say its a more than a little. I am disappointed to find out Miss Jessies Curly Pudding has formaldehyde as one of its ingredients. On top of that, I found that the ingredients used to be way better, but when they became more mainstream they changed the formula without informing anyone. And by the way, The CD Hair Milk isnt all natural either, so I encourage you to do some research about ingredients and become familiar with what you are putting on your hair. Heres why: When I decided to go natural, I was looking for a product that would help my relaxed hair curl (ie, not look like a wavy, stringy mess), but still work on my natural hair as it grew. ActuallyI couldnt see thatthe comments come up in my dashboard in the order people post them in. Our products have a small amount of mineral oil besides the 16 ingredients, furthermore mineral oil ISNT the active ingredient, Shea Butter is the active ingredient. Also, unless Carols Daughter has changed her MO, her hair products are natural (or they used to be). I used the Pillow Soft Curls on Friday and my hair was so frizzy and dry. Bottom-line when I originally read this article it was not accurate!
), I noticed because I was just on their site yesterday looking for information on a new product. SoIve never posted on this site, though I read it often. Its used in thousands (if not millions) of other cosmetic products around the world. Why Miss Jessies Will NEVER See a Dime From Me (Okay they saw a dime ortwo). There are tons and tons of non-natural ingredients that go into hair products but are not included in *natural* products (however, natural does NOT mean better). I opened the tub and see this purple sutff and was immediately turned off. You will need to read the lists and if you are unsure, Google the ingredient. So moved on to Kinky Curls and Shea Moisture. If they work for me I will use them as long as they are offered and will always be able to afford them in the name of Jesus! Even if they have removed the turn your kinks into curls slogan, that still follows them because whenever I am in Target or the BSS in my city that sells them, I hear mostly non curly naturals discussing how they are going to buy MJ bc they heard thats the only product that will turn their kinks into curls. I am in complete agreement with you; although, Ive never considered any of this before. Everyday, someone asks me what do you do to get those gorgeous curls?. But you wont see ME doing it. Im all about health of my hair and affordabililty. This begs the question as to why MJ has not followed suit. ' Well you know, whatever floats your boat. Its amazing! Thanks Elle! The name says it all. How phony! Good day. Be blessed, Elle! We have user Kinky Curly for special occasions and the curls really do look great! Although I know definition is sort of the opposite of what in claims, I still like my results. So glad I read this article to save myself the frustration. I left a comment asking about this; lets see if they answer my question.
Gave me greasy hair the first day, flat hair the second and dry hair the third! Yea right!
I know what works for me and use whatever works, whether it has mineral oil or not.
Dear Elle: | Discover Yeluchi. So, why does Miss Jessies stuff cost $38-$58 for 16oz? The chemical in keratin treatments is different from dmdm hydantoin, which is a preservative where the main concern is skin irritation. They worked good for a few days and I realized my hair was starting to dry out and break off. For me, I believe in quality items. Poison Ivy is all natural but you dont want to rub that all over your face.
I still believe in using the same old stuff to grease my scalp and I use vaseline on my skin daily! Heck the only line that I have spend money on is Carols Daugther and I will admit seem of her products are reasonable in price and it does wonders on my hair. And for low cost.
Its my opinion. Why is it that they have to charge out the ass for products for US? I have a mixed daughter with beautiful curly hair but does require lots of meintenance especially because she is an active 8 year old. .
It also makes you look like you have ulterior motives in MY OPINION.
But admittedly, they dont annoy me *as much. ME : Is your natural texture permnantly changed like it would be if you had a perm/texturizer?
but i will probably never buy it again. Wellit seems that they did not answer my question OR approve my comment, and also deleted their response which said they dont contain mineral oil. Mery: Like a relaxer or texturizer, the Silkener is a chemical as well. Im always on the look out for natural products and I have to say its hard to find stuff that works as well as the bad ones. NO THANK YOU! All the products are garbage they are all just jars of grease and did nothign but damage my natural hair!! Full of ish, I tell ya. Miss Js just reminds me of a jazzed up pink lotion. Please be aware that we are making changes regarding ingredients, this usually takes time, it can not happen overnight. Good luck! What the #*^@!?! That speaks volumes to me about your credibility as a blogger and/or reviewer of a product. Moreover you are beautiful and intelligent, and izzi is gorgeous. Eventually the color of the Curly Pudding went away and my hair started to dry and I thought it would turn out well Until I went outside this morning One thing I appreciate about gel IT HOLDS. Yes, I totally agree that some of these people are obviously affiliated with MJ. i think the only reason i would be reluctant to buy the products is because there are sooo many mixed reviews. It even looks a little bit like it too. Thanks for this post & I highly recommend KCC & THERE shampoo, etc. I was even more annoyed. Since that time, Miss Jessies has made some changes for the better, including adding the ingredients to their site, changing their tagline (to The Best Darn ProductsPeriod which is still a giggle but fair enough), and concentrating less on turning kinks into curls, although I still feel as if their main focus is curl definition. Whether you love or hate MJ products is up to you. If it does, Im buying it period Be blessed yall! Further, I do not think that people are picking on MJ. ! ~~~ Calm all that down, please. I have tried LOTS of products, both expensive and inexpensive over the years and have settled on using simple clear gel and a really good blow dyer and diffuser. Now, I know that MJ is not the only company to use puffery or downright dishonesty to sell their products, nor are they the only company to sell their potential consumers false hopes. natural hair brands know haired styling gal needs every styles * Again, if you love the products, sexy legumes and and may the force of the curl be with you. But I tried the samples thinking I wasnt going to like it and I was actually kind of impressed with the Shampoo. ME: How many washes after the chemical process is applied that your actual texture comes back after its been loosened? ? I mean, youre right.
OMG I LOVE YOU! Nope! Theres a big difference in your hair not looking bouncy and curly (loaded with grease) and being damaged.
Its a little shady ! Its scent is reminiscent of Downy fabric softener/drier sheets, which some people love and some hate. Search for: I saw the video about shingling and tried itAnd I felt like I was shellacing my hair with relaxer because my hair was completely white/purplish, but at least it smelled good. Now if it was loaded with alcohol or other drying ingredients I can see someone say it damaged their hair but how can a jar of grease damage your hair? If not, all good. Basically, the only positive thing about this product was the slip factor.. It does, however, appear to be more effective for those with a looser curl. My beautician cut my hair very short and I started all over with my natural. But my hairstylist recommended MJ Buttercreme for healthy growth. I have 400+ posts, one cannot expect me to continuously update my posts based on the marketing efforts of a company unless someone brings it to my attention, as you did so thanks! But MJ as a company subscribes to some ideologies that I cannot support. Coming from me, thats saying a lot. Over the years, Ive learned that hair product with non natural colors cant be truly natural.
And as a responsible blogger, you should update the post accordingly. But all agree that it is has a strong scent.
My sole goal when using a product is does it work for my hair. Totally disgusting. Now that I am a young adult I can make my own decisions regarding my hair which is why I went back to being natural. I know Im sooooooo late on this blog. Just wished it didnt leave a residue in my hair.. Water (Aqua), Emulsifying Wax NF, Glycerin, Amodimethicone, Behentrimonium Chloride, Methyl Gluceth-20, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Blue 1 (CI 42090), Fragrance (Parfum), Limonene, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Oil, Safflower (Carthamus Tinctorius) Oil, Persea Gratissima (Avocado) Oil, Alpha Isomethyl Ionone, Citric Acid, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Silk Amino Acids, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein/PVP Crosspolymer, Linalool, Hexyl Cinnamal, Amyl Cinnamal, Citronellol, Benzyl Salicylate, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Benzyl Alcohol, Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate, Hydroxycitronellal, Urtica Dioica (Nettle) Extract, Equisetum Arvense Leaf Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Flower Extract, Althaea Officinalis Root Extract, Agave Americana Leaf Extract, Your email address will not be published. I personally have NEVER used the products based on price, amount and ingrediants.i was called crazy for not using themfrom ppl who never thought to read ingrediants. This is a quote from the website. Its a double standard, plain and simple. I wish Id known about you years ago, my hair is so much healthier now. All in all I want something that works. Will you still be able to determine what my curly style options will be when you consult with me?
And dont get me started with that silkener crap..that is false advertising! And they were less expensive obviously, a no brainer. They advertise what theyre popular for.natural hairbut i agree about titi.
Clearly J has an agenda coming here refuting a bloggers right to post her opinion and asking for addendums If J does in fact work for Ms Jessies (obviously theres an affiliation of some sort), try not to be so damn defensive and transparent about your affiliation in the interest of good marketing. But after finding other (cheaper) products I decided to go without shelling over the big bucks for my hair and put it in Food & Gas for my car (yea to me Miss Jessies is enough to feed me for two weeks and a full tank) I think its sad that someone cant share their opinion without being attacked. Miss Jessies products suck (for lack of better words) and theyre pricey. (Supposedly no harmful chemicals-even claimed to be all natural) My hair looked amazing all down my back for 2 months-until it began falling out. I dont understand why they charge so much for their products either. You can share your positive opinion of the products without coming off like youre in a debate. Your email address will not be published. I hated the curly meringue it was awful.
However, once most of us became more familiar with our natual hair and started researching ingredients, it became irrational to us to pay the prices MJ charges for the same ingredients that are in Blue Magic or Lusters Pink Lotion etc.,. I dont see any mention that their products are the Best Darn Products for natural hair period. i absolutely *hated* the scent (smelt like cheap mens cologne, and strongly at that not good!). I hear lots of African American women giving me that advice including some of my close friends but we will keep going natural and keep reading great blogs like yours! I totally agree with you ! i AGREE With you tooBUT IM WONDERINGWHHHHYYYYY issss allllll these black hair care on the web companies (im getting hootin mad here!! ME: So its (what i know as) a texturizer? This product gave me hair that I didnt know I had!
Its not that deep, everunless youre than manufacturer. Still, this salon is an upscale salon in New York City!!! Mery: The silkner only helps loosen the hair texture to help it be more manageable.
Hmmmm.Ill admit, you can find this information on their website, but I found it fishy that they didnt mention it AT ALL on national TV, especially when it seems like they make so much money from them. To tweak existing curls, kinks or waves, address shrinkage, turn kinks to curls, combat frizz, and make hair more manageable. Yeah.okay.and in case you think Im lying, this is DIRECTLY from their FAQ on the website . And it also provides a great shine. I am NOT against any product all natural or not.
The problem I have always had with Miss Jessies is the price. pudding hair curly natural miss jessie five jessies Points still stand.). Anyways if you go to their site they still promote turning your kinks into curls. I was looking at the before and afters and they repeatedly say things like we turned her kinks into curls with Just and fyi, they really didnt change much at all.
Addendum, July 5, 2012: This post was originally written in March 2010. , Who said grease was damaging? I am not your curl messiah and I dont tell people what to do. Well, so that already annoyed me, and I was pretty much done with them. You are correct. Sneaky huh? The companys name sake is from the same place my family is from and I dont care what anyone has to say about their products.
This is the very reason I never ever wanted to jump in the Miss Jessie line. It spreads so smoothly and feels as light as a feather on your curls. The average person should not be spending $14 on a bottle of shampoo especially, if it is not of quality and you can get the same thing for $3. THENTiti and Miko went on Tyra, plugged their productsbut NEVER mentioned the fact that they give chemical services at their salon, or that Titi has a silkener.
Natural, not ALL natural. Thats great! Thanks for the post , 100+% agree! detangler.
Wet not wash hair removing all product, twist or braid formation, and straight styles leaving your hair free form for your 1st visit. Woo-sah! Be a responsible journalist (be it professionally or not) be responsible for what you put out there! All in all, many people found the product to be satisfactory, but not worth paying full price.
Get it right! The only time they sell major product is when they do the BOGO sale. Anyway Im getting off track because What I really wanted to say was that it is so easy to get wrapped up in the hype and spend lots of money on products because of their claims or because of bias positive reviews on Youtube( that annoys me so much).