I haven't played out in years, and while I cant say I never will again, I don't see it happening anytime soon. That being the case I might suggest you look more into the mid-range speakers such as the ZLX series, DBR series, or CP series. That's simply the nature of the design of those types of speakers. Asalready noted though, either would be more than adequate for your needs. The lower range speakers (Alto, Headrush, etc) also use bi-amping, but the crossover frequency is fixed. Manyplayers making the switch from tube amps have difficulty at the outset. Playing by myself to a backing track or whatever I just don't need the volume. My main concern is that the JBL's may sound "smaller", compared to the Alto. Display as a link instead, Which will sound better? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. As mentioned previously they're studio monitors, meaning they're meant to be listened to in a very specific equilateral triangular arrangement between the listener and the two speakers in order to get the full effect. I could just order all of it and return the lesser ones, but if at all possible I'd rather not do that. Again, Yamaha quality/flexibility (and 10" vs 12") vs Alto price. Since they're a bass reflex system you'd need to follow the manufacturers directions regarding placement. I switched from an all tube setup, as well. Cost is the same on both. Paste as plain text instead, The room I play in is decent size (13'x30'), and I tend to move around alot, almost never playing while sitting. Your link has been automatically embedded. Powered by Invision Community, Opinions on speaker situation for Helix LT, Apple M1, MacOS 11 and 12 Compatibility with Line 6 Software. For my needs? Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. April 6, 2019 in Helix. LOTS of people use the Yamaha and are very happy. I use a pair of Yamaha DXRs on stands in my basement with my LT. Which one you'd prefer only you can answer, and there's exactlyone way to findout. Ill definitely check out that channel. Unfortunately, while I'm within 20 minutes of 3 different Guitar Centers, not one of them has both of these to demo. For your needs, either will do. Line 6, Inc. They will most undoubtedly sound very high fidelity, and will probably sound okay as you move about the room, but the stereo effect will be limited. The speakers that would fall into this category would be things like the QSC CP12, EV ZLX-12P, or Yamaha DBR12. A frequently asked, yet unanswerable question it's entirely subjective. ), and fairly high volumes. The main difference between the FRFR112 and the TS312 is that the TS312 has mic preamps. Which would be better? Smaller isn't necessarily the problem with the JBL's. By A pair of DBR10s will cost about $800 vs $500 for the Altos. The higher range do that and have presets for different situations and placements. I personally own a QSC CP8 that I use for smaller open mic nights or jam sessions which is very capable with a great sound and consistent peformance to my DXR12 which I use for professional gigs. Generally speaking, other than professional large scale concert type speakers, you have three basic levels in the market right now. Check out Jason Sadites' channel he's got a number of Helix- specific tutorials. ok. I use a single HR FRFR112 and it sounds great. YMMV. You cannot paste images directly. You can post now and register later. Selling my tube stuff and cabs to go full modeling. Either a pair of JBL 308P MKII on stands, or a pair of Alto TS310 on the floor as wedges. The premium level speakers have all the general features of the mid-range speakers and with moreclean and precise high volume performance, and more advanced electronics and DSP capabilities for contouring the speaker's response.
I've never compared them. They'll sound best standing at the apex of the equilateral triangle between the speakers. Yamaha's warranty is hard to beat though! They should also go on (short) speaker stands to prevent bass coupling with the floor, and because they don't have the DSP that more expensive speakers have to cope with that. The Alto's or Headrush would fall into this category. Ok. The low end systems which have a good range of sound but very little flexibility in terms of adjusting for different placements and types of usage (spoken lectures, recorded music, live music, etc. As DD said, you get what you pay for. Speakers with DSP adjust crossover frequency and/or relative power levels between low and high frequency components based on volume levels. Higher up means closer to ear level and that always sounds better to me. IMPORTANT SAFETY ALERT: RELAY G10 TRANSMITTER FIRE HAZARD. Sorry about the crappy paint work, I'm not an artist. Im sure theyll both have great audio fidelity. Next dilemma is how to get sound from the Helix. I also own a ZLX-12P which I use for a side fill monitor, but have used it on occasion for my Helix. If you get the Yamaha, I'd get the stands anyway. A pair of short speaker stands will cost about $50: https://www.guitarcenter.com/On-Stage/SSAS7000B-Mini-Adjustable-Speaker-Stand-1500000023557.gc. However, keeping the above feature differences in mind, the relative quality in terms of construction and durability on the low end has increased considerably in recent years. Still not clear. I've come to the realization that I get zero benefit from a tube amp because I can never really push the tubes. Setting everything at noon and letting it rip will not work, no matter what speakers you choose. Thanks for the heads up. Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor. Modelers are NOT guitar amps, and FRFR speakers have a much wider and flatterfrequency response than typical guitar speakers, requiring acompletely different approach to the use of EQ. I've made a little diagram of my room hoping that will help. Inmusic claims that the FRFR112 is "voiced for guitar", but the only difference that they'll admit to is the lack of mic preamps. In terms of the other direction of using FRFR liveperformance style powered speakers, it's important to understand that you get what you pay for in terms of quality. I've decided on the Helix LT. I've narrowed it down to two options. There's often a steep learning curve one that's totally worth it imho sodon't expect instant gratification. Although I've had a few people I know tell me to get the AX8, the UI of the Helix is just seems super intuitive. You might also consider looking into the smaller versions of these speakers as bass response really isn't a major consideration when it comes to DSP driven powered speaker designs.
This being a Helix forum, between the AXE and the Helix, guess which one we'll recommend? The Yamaha are lower powered, but higher quality and more flexible (DSP). On a side note, no matter what you choose, do yourself a favor and watch some youtube vids on how to dial in a modeler with FRFR speakers. The next level of speakers would be more mid-range priced, have more flexibility for adjusting for usage, but a bit lower maximum volume, and use a bi-amp design for separating power to the speaker and the horn. Pasted as rich text. That means that they'll have a "sweet spot" in terms of volume and listener position, and are best used vertically on poles. I'm about to jump into the modeling game. The Altos are PA speakers, and have a much wider dispersion. A pair, plus stands, will cost about $650. As for speakers, the JBLs are near field monitors, intended for mixing. As you mentioned, volume isn't a primary concern. Maybe Im just dense. Awesome sound. So maybe jump up some Yamaha DBR10's instead of the Alto. Apply to Join our Public Beta Testing Program! pilethemup, I just don't know which will sound best. The type of speakers falling into this category would be things like the QSC K12.2, Yamaha DXR12, or the Line 6 Stagesource speakers. It'll take a while. Upload or insert images from URL.